Subject	High ball low ball game..quoted standing up
Posted by	zeeeya on November 18, 2000 at 1:06 AM
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In Reply To	They offered $18K for a 93 conv Z. LOL...take the money and posted by Thomas(Houston) on November 17, 2000 at 11:32 PM
Message	dont fall for that high ball low ball game that dealers play Everything changes once you take out you check book, sign over a depo and negotiate "sitting down" Negotiating while standing up is just a yank of your chain I know because im in the automotive retail business (indirect auto lending) Any saleman "must" goe thru a sales manager for any price fluctations from MSRP and especially "trade-in" When your ready to do the deal...the used car manager will inspect your car, call a couple of wholesalers (because the GM dealer "may" not keep the car on a domestic lot and because they dont sell used imports, they probably dont even know what your car is worth) If they are gonna put a number on your car..believe me..its gonna be black book wholesale. And if they give you "trade in value" a retail price on the bill of sale...ill bet you wont get a single penny discount on the new camero. And if they show you a "big" discount on the camero.."beware"!!!! the new camero is probably over-inflated! NO DEALER is gonna give you RETAIL for your trade and sell their car at WHOLESALE! : run. You will never get an offer like that again. Take the $18K and get a 92TT for around $12 and spend $6K on a full body kit and paint and go stage 5.
Follow Ups	Drove a 2001 Droptop SS Camaro today and>> - ConvertibleZ 20:55:29 11/17/00 handling sucks....great for the straight line >>>> - NA300ZX (Tampa) 21:01:31 11/17/00 Handeling on it is very impressive actually - ConvertibleZ 21:10:01 11/17/00 You have to be kidding me -> - AJ 22:01:19 11/17/00 Stg 3 vs SS its not even close.. (n/m) - MikeeZ 22:32:47 11/17/00 Look crack shit - ConvertibleZ 22:37:34 11/17/00 Actually a stage 3 ZTT will lose to a stock SS >>> - Thomas(Houston) 23:26:35 11/17/00 "Free mods" doesn't count as stock..... - KILLR300ZX 01:17:07 11/18/00 Stock SS will be close, free mod SS will kill stage 3ZTT. (n/m) - Thomas(Houston) 02:13:49 11/18/00 Actually, a Z with gutted exhaust WILL pass emissions -> - AJ 08:09:30 11/18/00 what r u talking about >>>> - JnooonZ 03:28:43 11/18/00 lol..agreed stock Z will be killed unless -> - AJ 08:07:28 11/18/00 WTF? Those things are cruise ships...AND> - unlimitedZ [Patrick] 22:14:38 11/17/00 I drive about two to the dealership>> - ConvertibleZ 22:40:12 11/17/00 OK, I misunderstood that part...thats not cool, but> - unlimitedZ [Patrick] 23:01:31 11/17/00 If I had a convertible Z I'd do a ZTT motor swap...like POPS (n/m) - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 21:02:50 11/17/00 A tt will still get killed by an SS (n/m) - ConvertibleZ 21:11:18 11/17/00 stock for stock I'd say. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 21:16:02 11/17/00 Not by me.. (n/m) - Spongerider 21:16:26 11/17/00 Re: Nor me.... Guy hasn't probably driven a TTZ. (n/m) - AlanM 22:35:14 11/17/00 Almost bought a 94TT but I like>> - ConvertibleZ 23:02:26 11/17/00 uh.......no..... - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 21:18:00 11/17/00 I watch the two of them first hand on the track - ConvertibleZ 21:32:42 11/17/00 damn... another whore to magazine stats.... - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 21:37:08 11/17/00 Let go and see the SS smoke your ass too>> - ConvertibleZ 21:40:55 11/17/00 You got to me f'ing kidding me>>>18K for your Z!!! (n/m) - Abel 21:42:40 11/17/00 That is what I was offered>>> - ConvertibleZ 21:46:44 11/17/00 How many miles? (n/m) - Abel 21:49:49 11/17/00 65,845 (n/m) - ConvertibleZ 21:59:58 11/17/00 okay then ask Alex Lee (the head ADMIN here at TT.net)>>> - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 22:17:51 11/17/00 I will email Alex and>> - ConvertibleZ 22:32:14 11/17/00 well that was in my last Z>>>>>> - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 22:40:09 11/17/00 Yes, It Did Happen. Several Other Witnesses Too! (n/m) - Alex Lee (DE) 23:11:09 11/17/00 so you saw one Z in the track gotten beaten by an SS - JnooonZ 03:19:35 11/18/00 Man, your kinda high on the Z weight, try 3500 or less. - ZBlacktt 21:43:13 11/17/00 Your so full of shit. Friend just bought a 2k SS -> - MikeeZ 22:02:36 11/17/00 Re: Your so full of shit. Friend just bought a 2k SS -> - jasonzTT[atl] 22:08:00 11/17/00 Re: I watch the two of them first hand on the track - TRUST 22:51:08 11/17/00 The domestic owners in Dallas/FW can't drive for shit. (n/m) - Thomas(Houston) 23:34:18 11/17/00 damn, im late here. here're my $.02 (maybe more)& experience - Jefe 01:34:28 11/18/00 exactly! And when it's colder outside it benefits the Z more - NVMYZTT [ BUSH-CHENEY 2000 ] 01:50:22 11/18/00 LOL....you think? I KNOW a TT wont! - SteAmyZ(Interior Specialties©) 01:02:49 11/18/00 Is it a manual drop top like the convertibles - Abel 21:04:52 11/17/00 Its all manual and the top is cloth like the 300z (n/m) - ConvertibleZ 21:15:51 11/17/00 Trade that sucker in man. Don't look back and lease> - Abel 21:18:58 11/17/00 WOW that is not the response that I>> - ConvertibleZ 21:23:22 11/17/00 If you can financially prosper>>> - Abel 21:30:23 11/17/00 I agree with Abel....... - KILLR300ZX 01:26:07 11/18/00 If you want speed go for it! - turbowash 21:31:44 11/17/00 Re: If you want speed go for it! - turbowash 21:33:15 11/17/00 an ss is basically a hood and an intake.. (n/m) - chris (houston) 21:06:47 11/17/00 That is what I like about it. (meaner looking)>> - ConvertibleZ 21:12:34 11/17/00 i'd put a duct panel on it and a ww front end - chris (houston) 21:36:07 11/17/00 Are you talking about my car, because>> - ConvertibleZ 21:44:51 11/17/00 oh my bad...didnt even look at it..it is nice (n/m) - chris (houston) 21:55:31 11/17/00 That is why I am still thinking of keeping it and>> - ConvertibleZ 22:02:06 11/17/00 There is a Z32TT around here with a Ram-Air style hood - KILLR300ZX 01:19:32 11/18/00 they have some suspension mods too (n/m) - Jefe 01:36:18 11/18/00 how much did they offer for your Z? (n/m) - Chip(Southern.MS) 21:21:49 11/17/00 18k and the SS costs, and I was told that I was>> - ConvertibleZ 21:37:07 11/17/00 texas toy store in houston has a 00 ss for 22k (n/m) - chris (houston) 21:59:35 11/17/00 It has a salvaged title, not worth the money>> - ConvertibleZ 23:44:10 11/17/00 your buying an SS for speed, then getting a convertible....? - okabashi 22:53:11 11/17/00 Dude, what year SS? It takes a LOT on an NA to beat one... - SeedyRom 22:59:53 11/17/00 Need a lot more than NOS too. A lot. (n/m) - Thomas(Houston) 23:29:41 11/17/00 Well yeah...no one just does NOS ;) - SeedyRom 23:34:01 11/17/00 Need more than NOS and components to run NOS too. (n/m) - Thomas(Houston) 23:45:38 11/17/00 That's kidna what I meant :) (n/m) - SeedyRom 02:17:07 11/18/00 The conv looks nice (IMO) that is why I want one (n/m) - ConvertibleZ 23:05:02 11/17/00 You're going to have to shoot some pretty big shots. (n/m) - mfh {Z kid} 00:36:16 11/18/00 They offered $18K for a 93 conv Z. LOL...take the money and - Thomas(Houston) 23:32:42 11/17/00 High ball low ball game..quoted standing up - zeeeya 01:06:15 11/18/00 Only thing it has is power....other than that----> - TRUOMEGA 22:36:49 11/17/00 if ya wanna blend in..get a Camero,Firebird,Mustang,Integra. - zeeeya 00:24:02 11/18/00 i hope you do get a camaro - nadir 10:52:25 11/18/00 whoa, that's harsh man (n/m) - Saxguy(NSXinOK) 15:29:56 11/18/00
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